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2026-01-10 16:31:40

delta@chaos.social

PSA We are happy about the wealth of privacy focused classic email providers (proton, tutanota, posteo, mailbox.org etc) but they are not geared for instant secure messaging. Do yourself, family and friends a favor and use delta with any of the many https://chatmail.at/relays

Or setup a relay of your own if you feel like it.

Or use a a dedicated chat email address on your own or any classic email server that has reliable service and no obnoxious rate limits or annoying spam handling.

Cheers.

2026-01-10 17:19:55

brainwashed by lentils

pelle@veganism.social

@delta #protonmail and #tutamail doesn't even support #imap, right?

2026-01-10 18:26:34

maxmoon 🌱

utopify_org@veganism.social

@delta

What exactly is a chat mail relay?

Do I get it right that it is just an email server with less restrictions than normal email servers?

2026-01-10 19:14:52

Attilax

attilax@framapiaf.org

@delta

A pity there's no other way to synchronize devices than QRcode...

2026-01-10 19:24:43

Delta Chat

delta@chaos.social

@attilax you can also get a link out of a QR code and ingest it on the other side via paste.

2026-01-10 19:26:58

Attilax

attilax@framapiaf.org

@delta

How ? I dont have a smartphone... I searched an alternative way but didn't find it.

2026-01-10 19:34:54

Delta Chat

delta@chaos.social

@attilax there is e.g. a "copy" button that will copy a link. You can also go to settings/chats and media/export backup and then on the other device import that file via "i already have a profile" from the startup screen.

2026-01-10 19:41:45

Attilax

attilax@framapiaf.org

@delta

I tried both, and it didn't work 😞

I really liked the fist version, that I used quite often with friends but it was completely different. You could use regular mail.
There's certainly been a lot of work on the new version, but right now I can't join anyone, it's a bit annoying for a tchat.

2026-01-10 19:43:27

Delta Chat

delta@chaos.social

@attilax exporting a backup file didn't work? Or importing it? This would be a severe bug. Please elaborate. ah, and make sure you are using consistent recent versions, to be sure -- versions around 2.35+.

2026-01-10 19:44:34

Attilax

attilax@framapiaf.org

@delta

Ok, I'm gonna try another time and feed you back...

2026-01-10 20:12:19

Attilax

attilax@framapiaf.org

@delta

Import/export backup finally worked !
So my devices are synchronized. Thank you. But it doesn't really help for importing friends without qrcode 😞

2026-01-10 20:28:51

Delta Chat

delta@chaos.social

@attilax for setting up contact with a friend, see https://delta.chat/en/help#howtoe2ee -- there also is a mode that doesn't require a camera/scan-qr code but sharing an invite link.

2026-01-11 02:16:15

Fedir Ustynov

ufm@twinkle.lol

@Delta Chat
Have you tried calling the person and attempting to onboard them using only voice?

The only thing that came to mind was something like: "Take a sheet of graph paper and start shading in squares. Shade the first square. Now the second. Now the third..." Of course, dictating a link out loud is not much easier.

I hope that onboarding two or three friends a day for about a week will make it clear that all the options you suggested are not great. :)